What’s up with pollowfort’s term and condition?

thebibliosphere:

kiarazuri:

thebibliosphere:

sophies-sideshow:

thebibliosphere:

It might have changed since the last time I looked, but it was the usual “we own everything you post” stuff that a lot of sites have (looking at you google docs) that just doesn’t jive well with me.

Wait what

What’s this about google docs I missed this somewhere

I use google docs all the damn time for collaborative writing should I be finding another site??

So their ToS is not outright “hahaha, we own your shit now, signed, evil corporation”. What is does say is pretty much standard ToS at this point for any online host service which is:

“When you upload or otherwise submit content to our Services, you give
Google (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use, host, store,
reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting
from translations, adaptations or other changes that we make so that
your content works better with our Services), communicate, publish,
publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such content.”

Pretty bog standard these days.

What I do dislike is that their ToS, is that they state the license is always evolving, so what I signed up for in 2012, is not the same license I got in 2018, and while I might retain intellectual property rights, it’s how the date is used that bothers me, and the idea that they own the right to that data usage even after I stop using the service or remove my works from it.

Microsoft 360 (the online thing) has very similar ToS. Which considering their recent moves forwards censorship, I have elected to stop using as well because I do not want to support that.

So I mean. You’re probably fine? I’m just…I don’t like google. And I don’t like their “our terms and services are built on quicksand” policies regarding licensing and distribution. That unsettles me. But by and large it’s the norm now, which I wish it wasn’t but heyho. Such are the times we live in.

I had hoped Pillowfort wouldn’t include similar things in their ToS, but it is what it is.

Wait. Im confused. It says:

“Google Drive allows you to upload, submit, store, send and receive content. You retain ownership of any intellectual property rights that you hold in that content. In short, what belongs to you stays yours.

When you upload, submit, store, send or receive content to or through Google Drive, you give Google a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptations or other changes we make so that your content works better with our services), communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such content. The rights you grant in this license are for the limited purpose of operating, promoting, and improving our services, and to develop new ones. This license continues even if you stop using our services unless you delete your content. Make sure you have the necessary rights to grant us this license for any content that you submit to Google Drive.”

Isn’t this contradicting itself?

Yes, the verbiage is deliberately vague, isn’t it.

Which I realize makes me sound like an absolute tin foil hatter, but I’ve seen enough people lose the rights to their works from publishers through deliberately vague contracts for it to make me not want to use them for hosting my stuff.